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Compiled by: Deng Tong, Bitchain Vision, Source: BBC
August 13, 2024 is a day that can be counted into history by Twitter – Trump and Musk made their debut on Twitter Space. It is reported that more than 1 million people participated in Space events.But the conversation between the two did not go smoothly at the beginning, and a small episode appeared – Twitter seemed to face technical problems, users reported having difficulties when accessing the event, and X platform data showed that 2 million people were watching TrumpLive interview with Musk, but the live details cannot be displayed.To this end, Musk posted that “X appears to have suffered a large-scale DDOS attack”, referring to a distributed denial of service cyber attack.and said: “We tested the system with 8 million simultaneous listeners earlier today.”
But the flaws do not hide the merits. The two talked about Trump’s assassination, illegal immigration, Biden’s withdrawal from the election, Harris’ failure to accept interviews, wanting to cancel the Ministry of Education, criticizing California’s governor, and electric vehicle policies.
Bitchain Vision compiles the content of the peak dialogue between the two giants as follows for readers.
Musk: Cyber Attacks Show Someone in the United States Against Trump
After Twitter Space resumed, Musk first mentioned the distributed denial of service, which he said “saturated all of our data lines.”The so-called cyber attacks show that there are some people in the United States who oppose listening to Trump’s opinions.The interview will be informal to help “open-minded independent voters who are trying to make up their minds.”
Trump: Congratulations to Musk and mentions the assassination
Then Trump’s voice was heard.Trump first congratulated Musk on “breaking all records” because the event had a large number of listeners.It is not clear what record he is referring to.
Currently, X’s interface shows about 1 million listeners.
Elon first asked Trump about the assassination attempt, when Trump was shot dead at a rally in Pennsylvania.
Trump smiled and said it was “not pleasant” and then told in detail about his experience.
Trump: Hope the interview helps gain greater political momentum
Elon Musk opened the show and said it was to give open-minded voters a chance to understand what it feels like to talk to Donald Trump.But Musk favors either side-his voice clearly shows that he supports Trump and reaffirms that he supports him.Twitter space shows Trump as the host and Musk as the co-host, so we know whose power is in.
Trump hopes the interview will help him gain greater momentum after President Biden withdraws and Vice President Kamala Harris revives the Democratic base.But Musk had to apologize for such a late and awkward opening.So there is no room for victory.
At the Republican National Convention, we were told that Trump has changed and will adopt a new unified tone.This is not fully implemented.
Trump also said he may never talk about assassination attempts again—but that was the only issue he has discussed in depth so far.
Trump said it made him believe in God more than before—and it was undoubtedly a sound of nature for his religious believers.
Trump also praised the female agent who came on stage with him that day.Musk remained silent about the fact that the agent had received a lot of criticism on X, including Musk himself.He questioned her ability and why she was hired.
How many illegal immigrants entered the United States during Biden’s administration?
Trump claimed: He has turned to immigration, one of his main campaign issues, helping him start his 2016 presidential campaign.
The Republican presidential candidate claimed that immigrants came from “mental hospitals” around the world without providing evidence.
“Millions of people poured in within a month and she stood up and pretended to do something,” he refers to Kamala Harris.He claimedThere are 20 million illegal immigrants in the United States.
During the presidency of Biden, it was impossible to know exactly how many illegal immigrants entered the United States across the southern border, but official data showed that the actual figure was lower than Trump’s previously claimed.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said that since January 2021, U.S. law enforcement officers have had 10.5 million contacts with illegal immigrants, with more than 8 million crossing the southern border.
It is worth noting that it may be encountered in situations where the same person tries to cross the border multiple times.
This figure has increased significantly overall compared to the four years of Donald Trump’s administration, and is also the highest record since successive U.S. administrations.
The number of arrests for illegally crossing the southern border has dropped sharply since Biden introduced rules in early June to restrict the rights of crossing the border to seek asylum.
In July, U.S. Border Patrol personnel arrested about 57,000 immigrants at the border, the lowest record since September 2020.
That number dropped sharply compared to December, when about 250,000 migrants were arrested while crossing the border.
Trump to return to the shooting city Butler
Trump said he plans to return to Butler, Pennsylvania for another campaign, as the last campaign came to an abrupt end as gunfire sounded.
Donald Trump joked that he would start with Butler’s next speech “as I said….”
“Before you get rudely interrupted,” Elon Musk quipped.
Trump accuses Biden of invading Ukraine
Trump claimed that Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if it weren’t for Biden.
Musk did not refute the claim and told Trump that he made a “very good point.”
“Putin and I get along well, and he respects me,”Trump said, adding that he used to talk to Putin frequently.
He then described an experience he allegedly advised Putin not to invade Ukraine.
“We’ll talk about Ukraine. It’s his jewel. But I told him not to do that,” he claimed.
“He said ‘no way’, I said ‘yes’,” Trump said.
Trump has been saying he “knows” Putin and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.
“They are both smart and fierce,” he said.
“When they see Kamara or sleepy Joe, they can’t believe it,” he said, pronounced the vice president’s name incorrectly.
Trump wants an Iron Dome Defense System
“Why shouldn’t we have an Iron Dome defense system? Israel has one,” Trump said.
His comment refers to Israel’s missile defense system, which can destroy short-range weapons fired at the country.
The Iron Dome Defense System was developed after Israel clashed with Hezbollah, a militant group in southern Lebanon in 2006.
It was created by Israeli company Raphael Advanced Defense Systems and Israel Aerospace Industries with some support from the United States.
Trump: Biden’s withdrawal is a coup
It’s much like Donald Trump is stating his long list of dissatisfactions to Elon Musk, who listens patiently and sympathetically.
He once again expressed his condolences for President Biden’s withdrawal, and he obviously wanted to have an election rematch with Biden.
He said “It’s a coup, it’s a coup for the U.S. president”, referring to Kamala Harris’s replacing Joe Biden’s place in this campaign.
He previously said this was unconstitutional.None of these are accurate, but interestingly, Trump never accepted the fact that he lost to Joe Biden in the 2020 election.
This is probably the closest we’ve ever seen him admit the truth: Biden won the White House legally.
Trump criticizes Harris for not giving more interviews
Donald Trump slams Kamala Harris for not having any long interview since he was nominated for Democratic presidential nomination, just like he said he is doing it now.
“It’s great to have a forum like this,” Trump said.
Speaking of Biden, he said: “You feel so sad when you think of someone who makes a living with it that can’t answer questions or are afraid to be interviewed,” even though the president was interviewed by ABC CBS a few days ago.
Musk went on to claim Harris would not accept his interview.
Although Harris has held large rallies regularly, she has not been interviewed by major media since her presidential campaign.
Harris campaign: Musk is Trump’s “lack dog”
As the interview unfolds, Harris Walz’s campaign sent a fundraising appeal to supporters.
The theme is: “Tonight, the two worst people you know will be online.”
“Musk’s pledge to donate millions of dollars to help Trump re-election is not enough. He is using the platform he bought – one of the world’s largest social media sites – to spread Trump’s crazy and hatefulness to millions of usersthe agenda,” the campaign mail claimed, and added italics to the word “millions.”It called Musk a “lack dog” of Trump.
Meanwhile, Harris Walz’s campaign also used Trump’s own social media platform Truth Social to continue attacking him in this interview.
Is Trump’s tax cut the largest tax cut in history?
Trump claimed: In his conversation with Musk, Trump said his administration has provided the largest tax cut ever for the American people.
Notes:Donald Trump did implement large-scale tax cuts during his presidency, but they were not the biggest tax cuts in history.Trump’s 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act cuts taxes across the board.Unless the next government extends these measures, they will expire in 2025.
According to the analysis of the Independent Responsible Federal Budget Commission,Trump’s external tax cut is the eighth largest tax cut as a percentage of economic size (GDP) since 1918 and the fourth (inflation-adjusted) in USD since 1940.
While Trump has not introduced the largest tax cuts overall, he has indeed passed the largest corporate tax cuts in U.S. history.The 2017 law reduced this tax rate from 35% to 21%.
This is higher than the tax cuts adopted during Ronald Reagan’s administration in the 1980s, when the tax rate dropped from 46% to 34%.
At the end of June, Trump told Bloomberg that he supported further reductions in corporate tax rates from the current 21% to 15%.
Trump wants to cancel the Ministry of Education
“I want to close the Department of Education and transfer education back to states,” Trump said, calling for the cancellation of federal agencies.
He saidAmerican students lag behind compared to their peers around the world.
He said“There are many benefits to canceling the Ministry of Education” and claims that this will cut the cost of education in half.
The plan is similar to the 2025 project, a list of conservative wishes that the Trump campaign has been reluctant to accept.
It also reflects the Republican program formulated at the Republican National Convention last month.
Trump slams California governor
Donald Trump has severely criticized California leadership, calling it “mismanagement.”
He also gave California Governor Gavin Newsom an offensive nickname in his typical style and criticized his achievements in education.
But California is a Democratic state with abortion rights and strict gun control laws, so it is not surprising that it has been criticized by Donald Trump.
Gov. Gavin Newsom also spoke out his views on Donald Trump without fear, after he described Trump as “a bit unconscious.”
Is Musk seeking a position in the Trump administration?
In the second half of this interview,Elon Musk seems to be working on his post in the Trump administration.
He is willing to help Trump hold government spending accountable, probably to help form a government deficit committee.Trump said he hopes Musk will be involved.
American media reported as early as May thatTrump has been considering offering Musk a position of government adviser if he wins.
Musk has been praising Trump and agreeing with him in this interview, which may be two-way: an interview with Trump, a very public interview by Musk.
How many miles of border wall has Trump built?
Trump claims: Trump told Musk that he built hundreds of miles of walls to protect the southern border when he was president.
Note: The length of the border wall built during President Trump’s presidency depends on the object you measure, but even if new parts are included and replaced or reinforced,The total length is less than 500 miles.A U.S. Customs and Border Protection report says the total length is 458 miles (external).However, only 85 miles of brand new wall section were built during Trump’s administration.
The rest are either replaced or reinforce existing obstacles.
As President Trump’s presidency is coming to an end, the BBC investigates the situation of the border wall.
President Biden suspended construction after taking office, but his administration allowed a section of wall to be built in southern Texas last year to prevent the number of immigrants from rising.
Musk talks about climate, Trump turns to “nuclear warming”
Musk said he hopes to create a positive future and talks about coping with global warming and expecting sea levels to rise by one-eighth inch over the next few hundred years.
He seems to be advocating for the transition to renewable energy that the Democrats have been pushing for years.
Donald Trump: The biggest threat is not global warming.He said this is nuclear warming.
Musk smiled.
Trump: “No, really.”
Trump said five countries have nuclear power.There are actually nine: the United States, Britain, Israel, France, Russia, China, Pakistan, India and North Korea.
Trump slams Harris’s running mate for tampon bill
Trump claims Harris’s campaign mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Waltz, signed a law that authorized schools to place tampons in public schools’ men’s toilets.
The state law enacted last year did not specify which toilets can use tampons.It just says that tampons should be provided to anyone who has menstruated.
Republicans have harsh criticism of the law, calling Waltz a “tampon Tim.”
Meanwhile, Waltz accepted the nickname and said he was proud of his work that made menstrual supplies available for free.
Electric vehicle policy reversal
Former President Trump said at a rally last weekend that after Elon Musk supported his campaign for president, he had “no choice” to change his attitude towards electric vehicles.”I support electric cars, I have to support it because Elon is very strongly supporting me.”
In this interview,Trump spoke of Tesla cars and praised the technology.Musk also told Trump that he hopes to turn to sustainable energy.
At the Republican National Convention, Trump vowed to significantly cut President Biden’s regulations aimed at promoting the popularity of electric vehicles on his first day as president.
He opposed a massive shift to electric vehicles out of concerns about employment for American auto workers.But he also said that electric cars themselves are “expensive” and “not driving enough”.However, according to a 2015 article from The Washington Post, that didn’t stop him from owning an electric car.The article quoted his campaign as saying that one of the two American cars in his fleet was Tesla at the time.
Musk re-supported Trump, but some Tesla fans and customers are not satisfied with it.
Last week, a German company said it would stop buying Tesla cars for its fleet because Musk’s remarks “difference” to the position that Tesla represents.
Twitter Space is Trump’s “safe space”
It’s not so much an interview, but rather an easy conversation – Musk is very flattering and does not refute some of Donald Trump’s unfounded claims about immigration.
He often says without any evidence that other countries deliberately send violent and bad criminals.
Musk did raise something slightly objection, saying immigration might be a good thing, but he quickly acquiesced to Trump’s point of view.
The issue of immigration is Trump’s strongest problem in the minds of voters.He followed Kamala Harris in this regard, calling her a failed “Border Tsar” although as vice president, her responsibilities focused more on the drivers of Central American immigration.
About Musk’s political preferences
I doubt whether independent voters have gained new knowledge about Donald Trump so far—if that’s their goal.
Those who love him will still love him and vice versa.But maybe we know more about Elon Musk.
He saidHe likes strong leaders, and when Trump talks affectionately about North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, Musk said it was cool to meet Trump with him.
Trump and his vice presidential candidate JD Vance have had a lot of interviews and stressed that Harris and Waltz have not done so far.
Trump said Kamala Harris would never talk to Musk like he is, even though it wasn’t an interview anyway.
Given that Musk calls Harris a “far-left radical” and supports Trump with all his heart, he obviously won’t be as tolerant to her as he does to her.
Nature of the interview: Musk makes major publicity for Trump
Musk had briefly stated that he usually didn’t care about politics, but also said he had lined up to shake hands with Barack Obama.
He stammered that the United States was at a crossroads, but did not elaborate too much on it before saying he thought independent voters should vote for Donald Trump.
Therefore, this provesMusk is not interviewing a major political candidate, but is just using his platform to do a major publicity for Trump.
Space’s listening rate is not as big as before
About half an hour after the chat started, X’s own data showed that 1.2 million people were listening to live conversations.
By comparison, when Musk helped launch Ron DeSantis’ presidential campaign last year, the largest number of people listening to the livestream, about 300,000.
Today’s numbers are insignificant compared to the television broadcasts of several other important events during the campaign.
More than 51 million people watched the debate between Trump and President Joe Biden in June, according to the Nelson ratings agency.
Last month, 28 million people watched Trump’s speech at the Republican National Convention.
